Big efforts are being made by health authorities, governments and vaccine interest groups to shut down detractors of the HPV vaccine that has now been metered out to millions of adolescent girls. The incentive to be vaccinated is only there if these authorities can claim it works in protecting girls from Human Papilloma Virus (HPV) mediated cervical cancer, over 70% of which have been associated with HPV strains 16 and 18.
But however hard the authorities work to bury or deflect criticism of the prophylactic policy that aims to ensure at least 80% of the adolescent female population is vaccinated, the greater the resistance. There is no smoke without fire. The fire driving this is of course adverse reactions that appear to be precipitated shortly after the vaccination, usually the same day.
The parents who are managing the trail of disaster that has befallen them since their daughters have been taken sick, are managing largely with no support from the medical profession. The main support they get is from their self-formed support groups for vaccine damaged children and affected families.
Children and families claiming a link between the HPV vaccine and the neurological and other conditions that subsequently occurred have been largely abandoned by the medical establishment. This is negligent regardless of the cause. But the establishment refuses to recognise or take any responsibility for its role in complex regional pain syndrome (CRPS) or postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome (POTS) that are among the common syndromes reported post-vaccination. To acknowledge a link would be catastrophic for the likes of Merck who make Gardasil, and Sanofi Pasteur MSD the joint venture with Merck that distributes it in Europe.
HPV vaccine news around the world
In the EU
The European Medicines Agency (EMA) was called in to investigate the situation after reports of high incidences of adverse events post-HPV vaccine in Denmark. The report of the EMA’s Pharmacovigilance Risk Assessment Committee (PRAC) was largely a whitewash. It found that there were no differences in CRPS and POTS rates between vaccinated or unvaccinated populations – but that of course depends on what criteria are used to categorise these conditions. The PRAC concluded that the evidence does not support a link between the vaccine and these syndromes. Accordingly it decided it will not change how the vaccines are used or the product information.
One could say that it’s difficult to find subtle effects, or very important rare effects in susceptible people if you sit in a room, compute big data statistics and avoid meeting any of the affected families. Critics have stated previously that there are problems with the data being viewed. Researchers from the University of British Columbia regard the available safety and efficacy data as “largely inadequate……[being based on] selective reporting of results from clinical trials,… unproven assumptions (or such which are at odds with factual evidence) and significant misinterpretation of available data.” This desk-based approach would only show up very big effects and is unfortunately par for the course when disruption of vaccination programs is not an option.
It’s reassuring that some European politicians are running with the issue, brought to them by people within their constituency. French, Green Member of the European Parliament (MEP) Michèle Rivasi is one such politician calling for a moratorium in France and the EU generally. Ms Rivasi has also argued that previous research on Gardasil has not been conducted in such a way as to make the results objective or scientific.
In Ireland
In Ireland, a documentary focusing on girls impacted by what families claim are Gardasil-associated severe reactions was aired two day ago on TV3. The report should be compulsory viewing. The support and campaign group R.E.G.R.E.T claim that 150 girls in its group consider their debilitating conditions are due to the vaccine. The Thinking Moms’ Revolution website asks “Is this the Beginning of the End for Gardasil?”.
TV3 Report. Released 14 December 2015 [46 minutes]
In New Zealand
An important report by Paula Penfold from 3D on 3 TV in New Zealand is raising awareness of the possible association between adverse effects, ranging from crippling illness through to sudden unexplained death. Like the documentary report above, we strongly recommend it be viewed by any parent prior to giving consent for the vaccination of their children. Watch here.
In the UK
Yesterday saw the Department of Health conducting a roundtable discussion on the human papillomavirus (HPV) safety. We are aware of MPs who were at the meeting but at the time of writing have yet to have word on the outcome of the meeting.
Earlier this month, Scotland’s Sunday Post shared recent input from the UK Association of HPV Vaccine Injured Daughters. Freda Birrell of AHVID told the Post “All we are asking for is to get all of the interested parties around the table and work through this again. We don’t have all the answers but these girls need help. If it is not an issue with the vaccine then it is something else and we need to get to the bottom of this… I am speaking to two or three families a week and it is heart-breaking what they are going through”.
Members of the Scottish Parliament (MSPs) on Holyrood’s petitions committee “agreed to ask SNP (Scottish National Party) ministers for their view on campaigners’ calls to hold a roundtable discussion on the safety of the vaccine, involving medical and scientific experts from both sides of the debate”.
The moratorium on HPV is being requested by AHVID, ourselves and others. It is backed by Chic Brodie, a SNP MSP.
In France
Whistleblowers can be some of the most disrupting influences. They know the issues from the inside, and then they speak out. One such whistleblower is French, ex-Merck, doctor Dr. Bernard Dalbergue, who gave an interview to French magazine Principe de Santé in 2014.
Shining a proverbial searchlight on the issue, Dr. Bernard Dalbergue stated:
“The full extent of the Gardasil scandal needs to be assessed: everyone knew when this vaccine was released on the American market that it would prove to be worthless. Diane Harper, a major opinion leader in the United States, was one of the first to blow the whistle, pointing out the fraud and scam of it all. I predict that Gardasil will become the greatest medical scandal of all time because at some point in time, the evidence will add up to prove that this vaccine, technical and scientific feat that it may be, has absolutely no effect on cervical cancer and that all the very many adverse effects which destroy lives and even kill, serve no other purpose than to generate profit for the manufacturers. Gardasil is useless and costs a fortune! In addition, decision-makers at all levels are aware of it! Cases of Guillain-Barré syndrome, paralysis of the lower limbs, vaccine-induced MS and vaccine-induced encephalitis can be found, whatever the vaccine.”
In Denmark
Tomorrow, Thursday, at 13:00 hours Central European Time, there will be a discussion on Gardasil and side effects in the Danish Parliament. It will be broadcast live. We have been informed that the discussion may be in the English language, although this can’t be confirmed at the time of writing.
The counter reaction to HPV vaccine in Denmark has been considerable since the documentary The Vaccined Girls" ("De vaccinerede piger") was broadcast in Denmark in March this year, and Dr Louise Brinth revealed 60% incidence of POTS following vaccination.
What do we and don’t we know?
What can we say for sure? The symptoms of CRPS and POTS create very severe issues for a large group of girls, especially. Most are not getting adequate care, regardless of the cause or link to the HPV vaccine. We know that finding a causal link would be very difficult scientifically and probably there are not sufficiently detailed data available to be able to confirm this link one way or another.
Another issue is that the statements made about potential side effects on the product information linked to Gardasil do not suggest anything like the severity or duration of effects that many of these girls are experiencing. Parents claim that had they known the effects could be as serious, they never would have given consent. But the authorities can continue to turn a blind eye saying that they have no reason to adjust the patient information while no evidence that these effects are linked to the vaccination is available.
For us, this is where the logic falls apart. There simply are not sufficient data or studies of all the girls who have developed CRPS or POTS in relation to the timing of vaccinations to know. The fact is, for many girls, there is a very clear temporal association between receiving the vaccine and developing symptoms. Until this subset of girls suffering from CRPS and POTS becomes a central focus of research, and the girls are given adequate healthcare support, the question will remain open.
And the authorities will have to cope with an increasing suspicion over the role of the HPV vaccine.
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Andrew B
17 December 2015 at 1:48 pm
Researchers at Adelaide University under Dr. Jon Jureidini produced "Restoring Study 329", highly unfavourable to original findings, which was published in the BMJ after examining original data on paroxetine (Paxil) studies. While I'd like to see such a team similarly discredit the data on Gardasil and Cervarix, the problem is that time is of the essence to minimise the number of lives irreversibly damaged. However, as long as "professionals" with political influence continue to defer to original studies, trust in corrupted regulatory bodies, and accept fraudulent and manipulated "science", it's going to be an uphill battle all the way. The use of adjuvant-containing "placebos" and the selective exclusion of unfavourable cohorts are two common methods used to pervert the science which need greater exposure.
Bev P
17 December 2015 at 9:24 pm
The doctor's brainwash is just unbelievable. Why can't they learn anything new when vaccines are involved? It is my opinion the range of side effects with HPV vaccine is similar to the full range of neurological damage, caused by other multiple vaccines given to toddlers, from slight to extreme. Cases of various forms of Tourette's syndrome, varying cases of fatigue, brain deterioration, hair pulling (Trichotillomania), teenage menopausal symptoms, which could all be linked to the HPV vaccine. Now we are waiting to see what it does to the boys. Australia appears to be in total denial and those affected are ignored by mainstream media and the medical cartel. The whole vaccine agenda is insane and needs to be abandoned immediately, worldwide.
Judy http://www.vaccinationdecisions.net
18 December 2015 at 12:32 am
Here is my research published in the Infectious Agents and Cancer Journal (2013) that debunks the myths and fraudulent claims about HPV vaccine. When industry is in partnership with universities public interest research is not promoted and it is up to the individual to promote their own research - unfunded. Hence it is easy for industry to perpetuate myths about vaccines when the medical journals are also funded and promoted by industry interests.
http://www.infectagentscancer.com/content/pdf/1750-9378-8-21.pdf
VaccineChoiceRI http://www.VaccineChoiceRI.com
18 December 2015 at 2:34 am
Rhode Island Alliance for Vaccine Choice RIAVC, partnered with the Alliance to Remove HPV Mandate, is dedicated to protecting our medical freedom in Rhode Island. We are currently working with our state legislators and government officials to remove the HPV vaccine mandate in Rhode Island.
NOHPVmandateRI http://gaspeeproject.com/nohpvmandateri
20 January 2016 at 2:28 pm
Rhode Islanders against mandated HPV vaccinations has a strong stance & making great strides in reversing the HPV vaccine mandate. The original group movement in RI and partnered with a 501c4 we welcome everyone to join with us and create change.
Godofredo
02 March 2016 at 12:07 am
INEFFICACY OF THE HPV VACCINE SEEN BY DOCTOR OF DEEP PERÚ
From its inception until the appearance of uterine cervical carcinoma (UCC) takes a average of 25-30 years; the research of this vaccine have begun in 2000. It is evident that the scientific efficacy of this new vaccine will be determined the years 2025 – 2030.
HPV not causes definitely the (CCU); at the onset of this disease involves multiple risk factors, including the suspected HPV, but scientifically is proven by epidemiology and statistics that the sex is what generates this disease. Nix in 100.000 nuns found not any UCC.
http://www.portalesmedicos.com/publicaciones/articles/1832/1/Epidemiolog.,.
There are not scientific researchs; stadistic, epidemiologic, citologic, histologic, colpocopic and clinic to demostrate that the HPV produce the cervical cance, are publishing. whitout scierntific sustentance.
To accept that a virus or a bacteria causes a infection disease must unfailingly fulfill the five Koch's postulate
http://www.xatakaciencia.com/salud/los-postulados-de-koch
1 - The agent must be present in every case of the disease and absent from healthy.
2 - The agent must not appear in other diseases.
3 - The agent to be isolated in pure culture from disease lesions.
4 - The agent of causing disease in a susceptible animal being inoculated.
5 - The agent must again be isolated lesions in experimental animals.
http://es.scribd.com/doc/44558220/MICROBIOLOGIA-1
Consequently, HPV not fulfill not any principle of Koch's postulates. by not meeting this postulate, that is accepted as dogma in medicine, scientifically we must be ensure that the HPV is not the causative agent to the UCC..
Until May 2013 Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting Syntem (VAERS) published that the vaccines against the HPV caused only in Unites States 138 muertes and 30020 adverse events; 947 disabled: 12 males, 924 females and 11sex unknown; 4050 advers graves: 106 males, 3883 females and 57 unknown sex; 527 abnormal PAP smears, 214 dysplasia cervical and cervical cancer 214. Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System secure that only the !% to 10% are denounced https://dub104.mail.live.com/default.aspx#n=1521802 http://holyhormones.com/vaccinations/hpv-vaccine/hpv-vaccine-adverse-eve...
http://therefusers.com/?s=cervarix
The Vaccine efects advers reactions (VAERS) ensures that only complaint between 1% to 10% of the adverse effects produced by this evil vaccine;this figures shown are calculated according to the statements of the VAERS: to 10%.
http://www.noticiero.enkoria.com/2011/diez-menores-que-sufrieron-reaccio...
http://www.pop.org/content/merck-researcher-admits-gardasil-guards-again...
Dr. Harper, who contributed to the development of the vaccine by Merck, reports that the vaccine was not investigated in children under 15 years and the vaccine given to children under 11 years is a big public experiment.
http://offtheradar.co.nz/vaccines/53-researcher-diane-harper-blasts-gard...
The vaccine was approved to give girls uncontaminated with HPV, Dr. Howenstinc ensures that the women are vaccinated with HPV contaminated, have the possibility to acquire a 44.6% CCU
http://www.newswithviews.com / Howenstine/james170.htm.
Merck did not disclose that the vaccine was transgenic, the Sane Vax has discovered, which is transgenic because it has been found that the vaccine is contaminated with DNA recombinant vaccine Gardasil (DNArPVH) and has raised its concerns to the president of the FDA Margaret Hamburg. The FDA replied that the vaccine will not cause any damage transgenic
http://real-agenda.com/2011/09/16/vacuna-gardasil-contaminada-con-adn-re...
http://bolsonweb.com.ar/diariobolson/detalle.php?id_noticia=26075
A vaccinated child was ill with rheumatoid arthritis, which is an autoimmune disease. 24 hours after vaccination and found that the aluminum adhered to DNArPVH, two years after vaccination and in autopsy 6 months after death in a New Zeland girl Jazmine Renata which had recibed this deadly vaccines
http://www.mecfsforums.com/index.php?topic=9331.0
Management time to get market approval of a drug the FDA is at least three years, it is a drug for cancer 15 years, but the authorization Merck had only six months and the European Medicines Agency (EMA in English) only 9 months: To introduce the vaccine are using the marketing of fear
http://mujeresenaccion.over-blog.es/article-vph-la-vacuna-del-marketing-... http://mujeresenaccion.over-blog.es/article-vph-la-vacuna -of-marketing-of-fear-67210961.ht
HPV is ubiquitous; lives in wild and domestic animals, pollute us from birth, is on the doorknobs, on towels, on nails, on fomites, in gloves and specula of gynecologists,. sexual intercourse is not the only means of contamination.
http://spa.myhealthygood.com/cancer-cervical-vacuna-contra-el-vph/invest...
HPV also lives in the 400 nm outermost of our skin and mucous membranes. ,
If it live in our skin, our immune system produces cellular and humoral immunity is acquired or that our body is self vaccinatinge by PVHs living on our skin and mucous ..
http://www.conganat.org/seap/bibliografia/HPVToday/HPVToday007SEAP.pdf
The PVHs is not distributed uniformly worldwide. It has been found that in Canada HPV 18 only reaches 3%; is more often HPV 31, in my country Peru no studies have determined that HPV types predominate; Gardasil contains 225 mcg. aluminum and Cervarix 500 mcg, that produce the Alzheimer, Parkinson and autism, produce too neurotoxic and immune system disorders (Blaylock 2012) and polisorbato 80, a powerful contraceptive, that in experimental animals produces sterility, atrophy of the testicles and disturbance organic and funtional of the organs of the reproduction; is carcinogenic and mutagenic; also contains sodium borate considered poison unused in medicinal preparations (NLM)
http://www.telefonica.net/web2/paramahamsa/vacunaninosalerta.html http://detenganlavacuna.wordpress.com/2010/11/09/gardasil-cervarix/
Have been discovered to date 200 types of HPV; HPV is not infectious, contagious; the intercourse is not only that the persons is contaminated
http://quimicaclinicauv.blogspot.com/2006/08/virus-del-papiloma-humano.html http://www-lab.biomedicas.unam.mx/smpv/queeshpv.htm
On 22-11-2010 FDA approved Gardasil for males aged 9 to 26 to prevent warts and cancer to the anus, is overkill
http://real-agenda.com/2011/09/16/vacuna-gardasil-contaminada-con-adn-re...
http://salud.aollatino.com/2011/02/02/aprueba-fda-nueva-indicacion-vacun...
For the reasons from deep Peru Huancayo, I believe that this vaccine is a fraud?, a robbery?, a swindle?, a rough joke?, a crime?, a shame?, a scam?
The HPV is not scientifically proved for the moment that produce the UCC its effectiveness shall be verified just the years of 2025-2030.
Dr. Godofredo Arauzo
E mail: [email protected]
Godofredo
10 April 2016 at 4:51 pm
INEFICACIA DE LA VACUNA CONTRA EL PVH VISTO POR
MEDICO DEL PERÚ PROFUNDO
La eficacia científica de esta vacuna recién se determinará los años 2025-2030 porque las investigaciones se han iniciado la década del 2000. Desde su inicio hasta la aparición del Carcinoma del cuello uterino (CCU), demora en promedio 25 a 30 años El PVH definitivamente no origina el (CCU); en la aparición de esta patología intervienen múltiples factores de riesgo, entre ellos se sospecha que puede ser el PVH; sí está comprobado que el acto sexual es el que genera esta enfermedad: Nix en 130,000 monjas no halló ningún CCU.
http://www.portalesmedicos.com/publicaciones/articles/1832/1/Epidemiologia-del-carcinoma-del-cuello-uterino.html
http://www.scielo.org.ar/scielo.php?pid=S1851-82652009000100009&script=sci_arttext
Para aceptar que un virus a bacteria es el que origina una enfermedad tiene que cumplir indefectiblemente los 5 principios del Postulado de Koch, ñhttp://www.xatakaciencia.com/salud/los-postulados-de-koch
1- El agente debe estar presente en cada enfermedad y ausente en el sano,.
2- El agente no debe aparecer en otras enfermedades,.
3- El agente ha de ser aislado en un cultivo puro a partir de las lesiones de la enfermedad.
4- El agente ha de provocar la enfermedad en un animal susceptible de ser inoculado.
5- El agente ha de ser aislado de nuevo en las lesiones de los animales en experimentación.
En consecuencia, el PVH no cumple ningún principio del postulado de Koch;. al no cumplir estos postulados que es aceptado como dogma en medicina, científicamente se puede asegurar que el PVH que no es el agente causante del CCU.
Según VAERS (siglas en inglés), Sistema de Reporte de Reacciones Adversas Provocadas por las Vacunas del gobierno de EEUU, hasta Noviembre del 2014 solamente en USA se han producido 295 muertes y 31,732 reacciones adversas y sólo se denuncian del 1 % al 10%; extrapolando estos datos al 100%, se han producido hasta Noviembre del 2014: 317,320 reacciones adversas y 2950 muertes (VAERS November 2014)
https://dub104.mail.live.com/default.aspx#n=1521802
http://www.noticiero.enkoria.com/2011/diez-menores-que-sufrieron-reaccion-adversa-a-la-vacuna-vph-d
http://www.noticiero.enkoria.com/2011/diez-menores-que-sufrieron-reaccion-adversa-a-la-vacuna-vph-d
http://www.noticiero.enkoria.com/2011/diez-menores-que-sufrieron-reaccion-adversa-a-la-vacuna-vph-d
Están vacunando a niñas y niños de 9 años o mas dicen para prevenir el carcinoma del cuello uterino y del ano respectivamente: es un crimen.
La Dra. Harper, la que contribuyó a la elaboración de la vacuna refiere que la vacuna no fue investigada en menores de 15 años y la vacuna dada a niñas de 9 años es un gran experimento público, no funciona,es peligrosa y nio probada
http://offtheradar.co.nz/vaccines/53-researcher-diane-harper-blasts-gardasil-hpv-marketing.html
https://detenganlavacuna.wordpress.com/2013/06/26/confesion/
En América las 3 dosis de la vacuna contra el PVH cuestán 500 dólares, incluida la colocada. USA tiene 2 muertes por carcinoma del cuello uterino /CCU) por cada 100000 mujeres ( Internacional cancer screening network 2012) y 0.2 muertes por carcinoma del ano (CA) por 100000; tiene que vacunar a 100000 personas y gastar 50 millones de dólares; prevenir la muerte de una mujer por CCU le cuesta 25 millones de dólares y prevenir la muerte por CA 250 millones de dólares, si la vacuna fuera 100% eficaz. ¡UNA LOCURA¡
La vacuna fue aprobada para dar a niñas no contaminadas con el PVH; el Dr. Howenstein publica que si se vacunan a mujeres contaminadas con el PVH, tienen la posibilidad de adquirir el CCU en un 44.6%
http://www.newswithviews.com/Howenstine/james170.htm.
Las vacuna que se usan para prevenir las infecciones son elaboradas de bacterias o viruas atenuados o muertes. La vacuna contra el PVH es transgénica , elaborada en el laboratorio; el fabricante no dío a conocwer que era transgénica. Cuando una niñas post vacunada a las 24 horas se enfermó de artritis reumatoide (enfermedad autoinmjune) la Sane Vax inesvestigó la vacuna y en el 100% de las ampollas comprobó que era trangénica y conocida por la presidenta de la FDA Margared Hamburg aseguró que no hay peligro
http://www.mecfsforums.com/index.php?topic=9331.0 http://www.larevistaintegral.com/4874/vacuna-papilomavirus-%C2%BFes-peligrosa.html/comment-page-1#comment-11644
Para introducir la vacuna están utilizando el marketing del miedo:
http://mujeresenaccion.over-blog.es/article-vph-la-vacuna-del-marketing-del-miedo-67210961.ht
http://mujeresenaccion.over-blog.es/article-vph-la-vacuna-del-marketing-del-miedo-67210961.ht
El PVH es ubicuo; vive en los animales domésticos y silvestres; nos contaminamos desde que nacemos; si la madre está contaminada; se halla en las perillas de las puertas, en las toallas, en las uñas, en los fomites, en los guantes y espéculos de los ginecólogos. El acto sexual no es el único medio de contaminación
http://spa.myhealthygood.com/cancer-cervical-vacuna-contra-el-vph/investigadores-descubren-el-v
El PVH vive en el interior de las células de la piel y de las mucosas por tal razón nuestro sistema inmunológico produce inmunidad humoral o sea que nuestro organismo está siendo vacunado EN FORMA NATURAL ..
http://www.conganat.org/seap/bibliografia/HPVToday/HPVToday007SEAP.pdf
Los PVHs no se distribuyen en el mundo de manera uniforme. Se ha comprobado que en el Canadá el PVH 18 sólo llega al 3%; es más frecuente el PVH 31. El gardasil contiene 225 mcg y el cervarix 500 mcg, de aluminio sospechoso de producir el Alzheimer y el Polisorbatol 80, que es un anticonceptivo potente; en los animales de experimentación produce esterilidad; es carcinogénico y mutagénico; Se están publicando esterilidad después de la vacunación: Jazzmina de Australia Little 2013, 3 pacientes publicadas por Cofrancesco 2013 y las hermanas Maylor 2014; todas con la misma sintomatología y diagnóstico: ausencia de óvulos en el ovario, perfil hormonal de menopáusica y esterilidad irreversible. Contiene además el borato de sodio considerado veneno; no usado en las preparaciones medicinales.
http://www.telefonica.net/web2/paramahamsa/vacunaninosalerta.html
http://detenganlavacuna.wordpress.com/2010/11/09/gardasil-cervarix/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23902317
El Perú es el primer país del mundo que dejó de usar esta aciaga vacuna desde el 2012 por la sabia e histórica decisión del Ministerio de Salud; el segundo fue la India desde el 2013 y el tercero Japón.desde el 2014
https://www.pharmamedtechbi.com/~/media/Supporting%20Documents/Pharmasia%20News/2013/September/HPV%20Vaccines%20Parliameetnary%20Report%20%20Aug%2031%202013.pdf
Por las razones expuesta desde el Perú, profundo, Huancayo, considero que esta vacuna es un fraude, un robo, una estafa, una burla., una vergüenza, una corrupción oficial generalizada..No está comprobada científicamente; estadística, epidemiológica, citológica, histológica ni clínica su eficacia, se comprobará recién los años del 2025-2030.
Dr. Godofredo Arauzo
E mail:[email protected]
Teléfono: 05164252052
laeveern
05 October 2016 at 4:57 am
know gardasil 9
as criminal as merck was in vioxx and gardasil and other unknown
they will not stop..
and government is about to go social intelligence with trump as president .
His biggest , hiding the history of deliberate cruelty and being seen as an earned trust in the best interest of all..
mononucleosis different strains of herpes in the mouth causes nervous system disorders as internet search finds, pharma treats the symptoms not the cause.
Other research found on the internet not related to pharma...
this is coming out the woodwork pharma on a big kick, merck after world war 1
partnered up with pharma company to turn merck into a private pharmaceutical
and i can see
An agenda the war cold as natzi germany
in the best interest,that is verbally to convince of what in history it seems as your life ..
are we ahead of the backwards of stupid in the hospital
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